BADLRC Forum

David Robinson · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 10

I would just like to let the commitee and directors know how dissapointed I am (and others) at the cancellation of the August Playday.
I understand that the quary has been slightly modified, so I have taken the time to visit the sight and in my opinion the site changes do not justify the cancellation of such a prestigious event for the club.
I do not see how the cancellation can be taken by the commitee and directors. I await a full explanation from the commitee and directors, which should give clear justified reasons to the members you represent. Embarassed

Mat Hutchinson · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 9

Totaly agree with you David.

I canot see how the committee members could have reached this decision.

A plausible explanation to their members is required.

TANGO · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 13

WELL WHAT A BUNCH OF PRATTS badlrc look now cancel the playday whith little if any notice . has anybody actually seen the site and has anybody really thought about the possible implications of such a decision. I doubt it the club now look like fools they have as dr has said have let down the members without little or any consideration to the true cost and fall out of there actions. The question of how many renew

billtitley · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 15

As I understand it, we would not have been allowed to drive on ANY area that has been worked on, thus meaning that in effect we had no access, the only place we could camp is in the field opposite, that being the case, where would you propose that visitors park? The only access to the actual off road area is to immediatley turn right as you come through the gate right by the sheep dip. Some people come with lorries, some with trailers, where are they parking? If it rains the field opposite would be a mud bath, as it does not drain well. When somebody comes off site for a brew etc, they would have to cross to the already overcrowded field leaving mud on the road getting us in trouble AGAIN. There are as you know several times when i disagree with the committee, but this is not one of them, to cancel at short notice is very dissapointing, but as the owner started to modify the site two weeks ago without even advising us, and on challenging apparently had an attitude of "tough", and if you go on the modified area you will be in trouble, what would you the "experts" do to resolve it?

David Robinson · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 10

I do not want to get personal, just would like a justifiable explanation. Your comments starting,"as i understanf it" gives me the impression you have not been to site and are only repeating what you have been told.
I have spoken to other comitee members who have been to site, and believe the site is viable and at least worth a go. This club seems to stall at the lowest of hurdles.

hoppitpegleg · Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 25

As a relatively new member to the club(and even newer to this inter-web thingy) I feel I`ve got to add my penny worth of whingeing. One or two of you might have noticed my pleas for help on these pages, I`m new to Landrovers and to be honest not much use with a set of spanners either! My user-name on this forum might give ya a clue to the fact that my legs, having been smashed in an accident, aint up to much either. I`ve been sorting out all those little problems on the ORANGE 4 WHEELED BITCH, so that I can enjoy the play day without breaking AGAIN. I`ve already said.....not very good with spanners, knackered legs, that usually equates to everything I do taking twice as long as it would someone else, on top of that it usually hurts a lot too!!! Then its cancelled at the last minute....WONDERFULL!!! I`m not gonna start calling individual members because I believe club officials do a great job for very little or no reward, BUT....... Why was there no communication between the land owners and the club prior to the event, surely the owner was gonna let us know, wasn`t he? From what I`ve heard someone passed by the site and saw the work that had been done then contacted a club official. What if that member hadn`t passed by and noticed the problem, would there have been no contact between the club and the site owner prior to the event? Also as I understand the play day raises a considerable revenue for the club that I would imagine is a much needed source of income, who`s gonna compensate the club for their losses? As far as I`m concerned this land owner needs to be taken into one of the darkest, dirtiest corners of the site and for several of the members to forcibly insert various LARGE Landrover spares into his rectal cavity....... Failing that is the club gonna sue his ass for the loss of revenue? Razz

billtitley · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 15

Ditto to having conversations with committee members plus have seen photos that have been emailed to me. if you have been to playdays, you will know that if it rains, the normal point of entry to actual off road area is almost impossible to negotiate to vehicles with standard road tyres, i personally have seen people being towed on; the point being, the entry to off road area would need to be nearer the gate, which is a steeper climb which would put vehicles immediately at right angles to deep ruts even if they make the climb; remember, we do not all drive vehicles with big nobbly tyres, which brings in a serious safety issue for novices driving diagonal to deep ruts trying to turn either left or right with the possibility of a roll over, remember how Steve Campbell rolled a few years ago, and he is experienced.
On the subject of finance, we struggle (apparently) to make these playdays pay anyway, but more important is our reputation for a very well organised safe event, i feel that it would have been a fiasco doing a lot more harm to our reputation with an increased risk of injury.
I wonder when you saw the sight, cos they had made a start on the Sunday which is when Michelle, my daughter saw it and duly reported, by the Monday they had dug a lot more as seen in the photos from later in the week.

David Robinson · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 10

Nothing personal Bill, but I think we need a member of the directors or commitee to justify the cancellation. I agree with hoppitpegleg, the commitee do a great job, I was all for volunteening to join the commitee next year, but now have my doubts about the way things are run. We have a democratic system, voted members on a commitee who represent the general club members, (bit like the house of commons) we than have a group of directores, not sure who voted them in, they seem to be the people who cancelled this event (a bit like the house of lords) may be we need a big shake up at the top. The democratic bit does not seem to work. There seems to be a lot of decisions made behind the commitees backs or in little commitee clicks Rolling Eyes

Anyway, you wont have to pay your £10 parking this weekend. LOL.
What next!

shell · Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Posts: 2

I feel that everyone is aiming this disappointment at the wrong people. It should not be aimed at the committee/directors of the club but at the landowners. It was me that found that work had commenced on the site and then informed a committee member who later viewed it and informed other committe members. In the time from me passing on the sunday morning and others viewing that evening a large amount of work had been done. I then went past on the following Saturday where even more work had taken place. It is extremly disappointing that the decision has had to be made to cancel the event but this was not done lightly and is the right decision. I am all for the public playdays and actually arrange my shifts around these so that I am able to attend and even when I am working the bank holiday I attend between shifts, however, they need to be safe! There is no way that with the site the way that it is that is is safe to run this event. The size of the camping field that is left will allow room for the toilets, burger van and marquee and not anything else. The club already has issues with the local community and council about mud etc on the road and I feel that if the bank holiday weekend went ahead then we are inviting more serious accidents both on site and on the A515. (I have attended to too many people as a result of accidents already at events!)
People need think realistically and keep safety as paramount.

David Robinson · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 10

I agree Safety is paramount. I propose that the clubs main objective for next year is to stop all landrover events that are not held on Tarmac. No one wants to get hurt, or see anyone get hurt, but surely that is part of the thrill of offroad driving. If not then lets shut it all down.