[Puscifer]

I have been visitor of this forum for a while now, although have not registered until now. I feel the need to register at this point.

I have noticed that the thread re August playday cancellation has been locked !

I, myself run a forum, so am fully aware of how they work and what they are for.

Forums are a place for people to discuss topics and issues, providing the posts are not offensive, threatening, etc etc then a forum SHOULD give people the freedom of speech. If any thread has a post made that is not deemed acceptable then surely the author of the post should be approached and if necessary the post modified or removed, isn't that what forum admin and mods are for! It is not necessary in my opinion to close the whole thread.

The fact that the thread has been locked is concerning me, what is it saying?!?! well to me it is saying that the committee either do not want to hear the views of the members or do not care about the views of the members.

What is the point of having somewhere to express views, if when that happens the thread is locked. I am guessing it was a committee decision to lock it down, so I ask.... what are the committee scared of?!?! people who aren't scared to express an opinion!??! or is it that the committee can not/ will not answer the members questions?!?!

[hoppitpegleg]

CENSORSHIP........ CENSORSHIP...... CENSORSHIP........ WHAT IS WRONG WITH OPEN DISCUSSION??? I feel the decission to call off the playday was totally justified, but why close the thread. Afetr all its only people blowing off hot air....

[Puscifer]

Well I have to say I am truely overwhelmed by the response to my post!

People have been logging into the forum all day and apart from one response, no one has bothered to reply. It is beyond me how a forum/club can run when people refuse to address issues. All I can say is I hope the committee take a more dedicated approach with the club, or else a much respected organisation will undoubtedly begin to fail.

[MrHT]

The thread was closed so that the message from the commitee would not get lost in a load of babble. I don't belive anyone has been stopped form carring on the descusion just not on that thread.

[Mat Hutchinson]

I respect the committee's decision about the playday but would have thought the best platform to publish their response to members general unease would have been on the main Web site for all to see instead of the 5th page of a topical thread aimed presumably to quell a few individuals.

[billtitley]

Mr HT,
        don't you think that if the committee had given a DETAILED explanation posted preferably on web site as soon as decision was known, we could have avoided the "load of babble" . It would APPEAR that unless we complain (remembering i actually supported the decision and got flack for my efforts) we the members get treated like mushrooms.
       We all, i believe, acknowledge now that the reason for cancellation was as a result of actions by others, but an apology recognising the lack of communication to it's general members would be welcome so that we can move on.

[Puscifer]

[hoppitpegleg]

Lack of communication....... This i believe is the main issue here. Having taken the time and effort to travel to the site, and see for myself, it was quite obvious(even for a simpleton gob shite such as myself) to see the reason why the event was called off. I think some comments aimed at individual members to be un-called for and petty, but then again some comments aimed at committee members were likewise, un-called for and petty. Don`t forget, at the end of the day it was no one elses fault the weekend was called off but the land owner. Surely over the years that the club has used the site he would have noticed the numbers of vehicles and campers/caravaners, spectators the event attracted. If for no other reason than courtesy you would have thought that, at least, a simple phone call to the club letting them know about the work could have been made. IF that had happened I don`t think we`d be having this "BABBLE" as its been described( i prefer debate, each to their own eh!!!) the committee would have had more time to come to the members and inform them of the matter. HEY..... if they`d had enough notice it may have been possible to make other arrangements. We`ve all lost out....both the club and the members, don`t compound the problem by squabbling amongst ourselves. ADAPT AND OVERCOME I noticed on one post, its not looking like that to me, more like DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It`s my opinion that the club and its members have been let down by ONE individual, it aint the end of the world,lets pick up the pieces and get on with it.......    

[MrHT]

hear hear

[Puscifer]

All I can say is yes I agree that the land owner is to take the highest percentage of the blame, but things could have been done differently.

Well let's hope mistakes are learnt from and that the club works better as a single unit in future or else.... well i'm sure you all know what will happen!!

[TANGO]

Well having visited the site today and spoken to a number of disgruntled potential members and existing members I think for a bit of PR from the clubs stand they should have had some members of the committee sat at the gate explaining the situation rather than just leaving them to a small sign not really delivering the information. I also felt sorry for the "lucky winner" of the raffle prize of a trip around the course. ok she only travelled a small distance but there she was all the same. I believe that it was incumbant (help me here Mat)of the committee to contact ALL MEMBERS regarding the cancelation NOT just leaving it to the last minute visit to the website or paddocks!!!!!

[Puscifer]

So members and potential members were left unwelcomed by nothing but a sign.... way to go committee !!!

Nothing much could be done about the general public turning up as there is no way to possibly know who could turn up, but the members !! contact details are taken when they join aren't they?!?! phone numbers/ email addy's, time consuming to contact all I know but surely better than having egg on the clubs face !

[TANGO]

correct pucifer general public turned up but also members and potential ones eggs and more on there face

[Puscifer]

As I said in an earlier post, the committee need to look at how this has been dealt with and learn from it before a much respected club loses anymore respect.

[TANGO]

however it seems to be falling on deaf ears as there is little response from them

[Puscifer]

Agreed, hence my original post. I am surprised that the committee members haven't been on here to reply, well other than MrHT who managed to post 'hear hear'  !!

Maybe it's a case of if they don't look then it isn't happening !

[TANGO]

but they are out enjoying themselves as a committee

[David Robinson]

This whole  issue started with the landowner changing the use of the land and I agree that a public playday was risky and should be cancelled. I started the main playday cancellation forum because i wanted to know  how the decision was made to cancel. I do not think half of the commitee, diretors or the chairman knew till the action to cancel was taken. The committees statment that they were unanimous in the decision to cancel because of short notice is correct, only because they left it nine days before having the meeting and thererfore too late to make a better decision to possibly have a members playday. Some individual directors and commitee members appear to think they have power over the club and a greater say than other commitee members, this has to stop. I believe the commitee had an emergency meeting last week to iron out a number of these issues. Lets hope things work better in the future.  Not everyone has internet an dsome one should have texted, phoned or emailed every member of the club. I know of three club members who travelled over 50 miles to the quary on sunday only to find it cancelled.
I would now like to know who was invited to the camping weekend, this should have been publicised to all club members as soon as the new camping venue was arranged (over a week ago), not added to the website on friday.
Communication is everyting in a club. Why was a mail shot not issued?

[Mat Hutchinson]

Cheers lads for the unofficiall playday! Think i may have scored with the winner of the raffle prize!....gave her a good bouncing!! Then again She might of took pity on me....but hey there's always surgery!!?

[hoppitpegleg]

I would just like to add to the comments already posted.... I was at the quarry on Sunday and witnessed BAD members turning up for the play day having travelled over 50 miles, to be informed "The play day`s cancelled". One in particular was more than a little upset, and I can`t blame him. The "alternative gathering" was only a few minutes up the road, would it have been so difficult for a committee member to be stationed by the site to explain the situation or did the committee really think that they had done all within their power to contact the membership. Having travelled 50 miles they would have probably enjoyed the alternative get together a little way up the road had they known about it... ENOUGH SAID, BYE....

[Dexterous]